European Council October 2014: David Cameron바카라 사이트檚 speech
The Prime Minister David Cameron gave a press conference at the European Council in Brussels.
Good afternoon and welcome. It has been 24 hours in Brussels with some notable and important successes, but also with some deep frustrations and frankly quite a bit of anger about the way we have been treated.
First of all, let me deal with the good news, because there is good news. In facing Ebola we are facing one of the worst public health emergencies in a generation, and I have been absolutely determined that Britain, with other countries, will lead the way in dealing with this. Dealing with it because there is a massive crisis in West Africa, and we should feel some moral obligation as a wealthy country to help. But also, dealing with it because it directly threatens our national interest and our people in the United Kingdom, and that is why we have taken such a leading role. Britain has already pledged over 拢205 million; we have British troops going to West Africa; we have British health workers in West Africa and we are using all the resources that we have to help bring this crisis under control.
And we played a leading role here in Europe. I said I wanted to come to this European Council and get other countries in the European Union to more than double the EU effort, to get 鈧�1 billion committed. And I can tell you now, at this press conference, that is what we have achieved. Over 鈧�1 billion across Europe will be galvanised and spent on dealing with this issue. It is an example of where Britain in Europe can lead on these issues, can demonstrate a leading role in this issue, and can win over others and get things done. Get things done that will be good for Africa, but actually good for us in the United Kingdom as well. It바카라 사이트檚 a great example where doing the right thing is clearly in the national interest, and shows that our aid budget, when properly used, can be brought absolutely into helping with the national interest.
The second issue has been climate change, where I want to make sure Europe is playing its part in delivering a global deal that can prevent dangerous climate change. I think it was very important that Europe stepped up to the plate, and we have done that, with committing ourselves to more than 40% reductions of greenhouse gases by 2030. But I also think it바카라 사이트檚 important we try and do this at the least cost: at the least cost to our industries, at the least cost to our consumers and at the least cost to families up and down Britain who don바카라 사이트檛 want to pay any more on their energy bill than they otherwise should have to. And I believe that is what we have achieved with the deal that was signed yesterday. When these previous deals were done, there were binding targets on renewables, binding sub바카라 사이트憈argets, rather than just saying, 바카라 사이트楬ow do we get greenhouse gases down?바카라 사이트� We바카라 사이트檝e not made that mistake this time; we only have one binding target, which is the 40% reduction in greenhouse gases. The other targets about renewables, about energy efficiency, they don바카라 사이트檛 have any national targets. That is what Britain wanted; that is what Britain has achieved. And once again, I think it shows that we can on these issues in Europe, we can lead, we can win, we can get the right outcome.
That바카라 사이트檚 the good news. Now for the frustrations. The first is obviously it is frustrating that the European economies aren바카라 사이트檛 growing faster. We바카라 사이트檝e seen Britain바카라 사이트檚 growth figures out today and it shows broadly based and relatively strong economic growth. We바카라 사이트檙e now growing at 3% a year. It바카라 사이트檚 good that construction and manufacturing are showing strong like바카라 사이트慺or바카라 사이트憀ike growth over the last year. We바카라 사이트檙e building homes, we바카라 사이트檙e building businesses, we바카라 사이트檙e making things again in Britain; you can see a strong recovering economy, with an economic plan that is working, and that is putting our people back to work, with almost 1.8 million more people in work than the day I became Prime Minister.
That is very positive. But we have to be frank. There are threats to the British economy, from slow growth in Europe, and challenges in other parts of the world. And so it바카라 사이트檚 very important to play a role here in encouraging other countries to make the structural reforms that we바카라 사이트檝e made, to make sure people set and stick to targets in terms of deficit reduction and make sure that Europe does the key deals in terms of completing the single market and services, signing trade deals with the fastest growing parts of the world, the things that will make a difference to get this continent, to get these economies growing faster, which would be good for them and good for Britain.
That바카라 사이트檚 the frustration. But that leads me on to frankly the downright anger about something that has come about at this European Council. And that is the completely unjustified and sudden production of a bill for Britain of 拢1.7 billion, over 鈧�2 billion, that is apparently supposed to be paid by 1st December. This is completely unacceptable. It is an unacceptable way for this organisation to work, to suddenly present a bill like this for such a vast sum of money with so little time to pay it, and it is an unacceptable way to treat one of the biggest contributors to the European Union.
That is why this morning I interrupted the Council meeting that was discussing the economy, and said that before we went any further this had to be discussed urgently, and we needed to start to seek a resolution to it urgently. And in that I was supported by the Italian Prime Minister, by the Dutch Prime Minister, by the Maltese Prime Minister, the Greek Prime Minister and others. And so there will be an emergency meeting of finance ministers to discuss what has happened, and I think it바카라 사이트檚 vital that that happens.
Let me just make a couple of points about this. First of all, now, according to the Commission, it is an estimate; it is not a final figure, and we need to make sure the Commission start answering questions and the experts start answering questions about how on earth these numbers were arrived at. Because let me put it like this, of course in an organisation like this if your economy grows a little faster or your economy grows a little slower there are adjustments and there can be adjustments ever year, and we바카라 사이트檝e seen them. Sometimes you pay a little bit more, sometimes you pay a little bit less, but it has never been the case that a 鈧�2 billion bill has suddenly been presented. And it is not acceptable, it is an appalling way to behave, I바카라 사이트檓 not paying that bill on 1 December. If people think I바카라 사이트檓 going to - then they바카라 사이트檝e got another think coming. It is not going to happen.
These emergency meetings need to take place. The figures need to be thoroughly investigated. An explanation of how this happened needs to be properly produced. But people should be in no doubt, as an important contributor to this organisation, we are not suddenly going to get out our cheque book and write a cheque for 鈧�2 billion. It is not happening.
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Prime Minister, you say you won바카라 사이트檛 pay for this bill on 1st December. You speak of talks; there may even be legal challenges. Ultimately, if this bill or one similar to it remains on the table do you pay it?
Prime Minister
Well we will challenge this in every way possible. We want to check on the way the statistics were arrived at, on the methodology that was used, was it all done correctly, and yes there may indeed be legal challenges.
And I바카라 사이트檝e said, look, we바카라 사이트檝e been a member of this organisation for a reasonably long time. I바카라 사이트檝e been Prime Minister for over 4 years. There have been adjustments when you바카라 사이트檝e had to pay a little bit more or some years you 바카라 사이트� because your economy hasn바카라 사이트檛 been growing as fast as others, you pay a little bit less. There바카라 사이트檚 a process of adjustments. But it had never been the case that a 鈧�2 billion bill has been presented in this way. And if people think I바카라 사이트檓 paying that on 1 December, no, that is not happening.
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What about later?
Prime Minister
Well let바카라 사이트檚 see what we come up with. I want to see proper meetings take place, emergency talks to happen, go through all these numbers. As I바카라 사이트檝e said, we바카라 사이트檝e had adjustments in the past 바카라 사이트� I바카라 사이트檓 not against adjustments because that has happened. Sometimes we바카라 사이트檝e benefited; sometimes we바카라 사이트檝e lost. But 鈧�2 billion. That is bigger than many countries바카라 사이트� net contributions; it바카라 사이트檚 bigger than many countries바카라 사이트� gross contributions. It is not an acceptable way to run this organisation and I think that apart from the money, there are quite a lot of lessons to be learnt about the way this organisation goes about things.
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Prime Minister, can you tell us when your officials first learnt of this, and how come it was you arrived in Brussels and discovered that Britain was facing a 鈧�2 billion bill?
Prime Minister
Well I first learnt about this yesterday on Thursday, and immediately started to seek allies, and I found allies in the Italians and the Greeks and Dutch and others, on just how unacceptable this is.
In terms of when the Treasury got this information, it was a little bit earlier in the week. And I think the answer to that is when these sorts of memos come about is that they have to be interrogated, they have to be examined, people have to work out what lies behind them.
And frankly, in 24 hours when we바카라 사이트檝e been busy as well dealing with Ebola, dealing with the problems in the eurozone, dealing with climate change, at that time, even though we바카라 사이트檝e asked a lot of questions about exactly how these statistics were drawn up, what exact period does this refer to, why is this so much bigger an adjustment than we바카라 사이트檝e ever seen before? We바카라 사이트檝e not had answers. And I think a number of you have been asking the Commission for answers to these questions and I바카라 사이트檓 not sure you바카라 사이트檝e had satisfactory answers either. I haven바카라 사이트檛 and I바카라 사이트檒l go on asking those questions.
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Prime Minister, can you tell us what your understanding at the moment of what the time span for this bill actually is? Four years? 18 years? We바카라 사이트檝e seen different figures.
And secondly, in the various committees that have arrived at this conclusion, there had been British representation in the committees and the Council preparing these figures from the Treasury and from [indistinct] here. Why hasn바카라 사이트檛 the alarm been raised about this sooner?
Prime Minister
Well on the period, according to some this is a classic, what바카라 사이트檚 called a T-minus four, it바카라 사이트檚 over the previous 4 years. But again, it바카라 사이트檚 not, at the moment, possible to get out of the European Commission an exact description of how these numbers have been arrived at, and also they are I believe publicly saying that they are estimates.
So I think we shouldn바카라 사이트檛 get ahead of ourselves but I just want to be absolutely clear about 2 things: one, the way this was presented and 바카라 사이트� last night, in the way that it was, you know 바카라 사이트� I think it바카라 사이트檚 an unacceptable way to behave, and secondly the scale of what is being suggested. That somehow 바카라 사이트� and when you listen to some of the Commission, it바카라 사이트檚 almost like, 바카라 사이트榃ell of course it바카라 사이트檚 a technical adjustment and that results in this bill but everyone has to pay.바카라 사이트� Well no they don바카라 사이트檛, right? We are member of this organisation, we바카라 사이트檝e invested in this organisation, we바카라 사이트檙e a leading player in it and you do not join an association that suddenly thumps you with a bill for 鈧�2 billion three weeks before you바카라 사이트檝e got to pay it. It is not an acceptable way to behave. And you know, this organisation has got to understand, if it behaves in this way, it shouldn바카라 사이트檛 get surprised when it바카라 사이트檚 members say this cannot go on and it바카라 사이트檚 got to change.
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Just to clarify, is it your position that you did not know that these calculations were being carried out at all, and that you believe UK officials were involved in that? And is it not a little bit embarrassing that the Treasury were told about this a few days ago and no one thought to tell you before you got to an EU summit and discovered [indistinct].
Prime Minister
Look, on the first point - calculations like this are carried out every year, and adjustments are made every year, and there are important debates every year about the effect that has on the British contribution to the European Union. As I said, some years it means it goes up a little bit; some years it means it goes down a little bit, because it바카라 사이트檚 about relative growth rates and relative own resources within the EU. And I know that happens and I keep a close contact with this.
On this specific issue, the first that I saw of it was yesterday 바카라 사이트� Thursday 바카라 사이트� and my instant reaction was to look at the other countries that are being treated in this way, and to form an alliance with them and put a stop to this European Council so it can be properly discussed and an emergency meeting of finance ministers could be established. And I said, yes, the Treasury had this information a little bit earlier, but I don바카라 사이트檛 seek to, you know, single people out and say, 바카라 사이트淲hy didn바카라 사이트檛 you tell me this? Why didn바카라 사이트檛 you tell me that?바카라 사이트� When this information comes in, the first thing they do is try and check it and try and sort it, and I think frankly it바카라 사이트檚 a bit of a red herring.
You know, you can all do who knew what and when, and all the rest of it, but actually, frankly, it바카라 사이트檚 pretty 바카라 사이트� you know, you don바카라 사이트檛 need to have a Cluedo set to know that someone바카라 사이트檚 been clubbed with the lead piping in the library. It바카라 사이트檚 a 鈧�2 billion bill; you바카라 사이트檝e only got a month to pay it; it gets presented with only a month to go. That is not an acceptable way to behave, and it is not an acceptable sum of money. It is a vast sum of money.
And that is what makes me so angry about it, is when you listen to some in the Commission, how they talk about it, 바카라 사이트淥h, well it바카라 사이트檚 an adjustment. You just have to pay this bill. That바카라 사이트檚 the way it goes: sometimes it goes up, sometimes it goes down.바카라 사이트� This is taxpayers바카라 사이트� money. These are the people who employ me. These are the people who give me my job. I represent them, and I want value for every penny that they have to give in their taxes. And to be a member of an organisation that suddenly says, 바카라 사이트淩ight, 鈧�2 billion; I want it in a month바카라 사이트檚 time바카라 사이트� 바카라 사이트� the British public find that totally unacceptable, and so do I.
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When you learn something like this, does it make you wonder whether people in Brussels actually are serious about keeping Britain in the EU? I mean, this is a gift to UKIP, isn바카라 사이트檛 it?
Prime Minister
There are still things that surprise you in this job -I thought the Italian Prime Minister put it as well as anybody when he said, I think, in the meeting 바카라 사이트� and I바카라 사이트檒l probably get in trouble for quoting him, but he바카라 사이트檚 such a reasonable man, I바카라 사이트檓 sure he won바카라 사이트檛 mind. He said, 바카라 사이트淵ou know, people have got to understand: this isn바카라 사이트檛 a figure: this is a lethal weapon.바카라 사이트� That was the first thing he said. And then he said, 바카라 사이트淎nd when people produce a lethal weapon like this, don바카라 사이트檛 they understand, it leads to people across Europe think that the 바카라 사이트� thinking that the European Commission consists of technocrats and bureaucrats without a heart or a soul.바카라 사이트� That is what the Italian Prime Minister said, and I agree with every word of it.
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Thank you Prime Minister. Doesn바카라 사이트檛 this bill make it more likely that Britain will vote to leave the EU, if and when we get to the referendum that you promised?
Prime Minister
Well, it certainly doesn바카라 사이트檛 help. Let바카라 사이트檚 put it like that. I think there is a strong case for Britain being involved in the European Union, if we can reform it in the way that I바카라 사이트檝e set out, and I바카라 사이트檝e given some examples today. We바카라 사이트檝e marshalled 鈧�1 billion of aid to tackle the Ebola crisis that threatens us back at home. Could we have done that if we weren바카라 사이트檛 in the European Union?
We could have banged at the door and said, 바카라 사이트淗ere바카라 사이트檚 our money, will you chip in a bit?바카라 사이트� But I was round the table, looking them in the eye, saying, 바카라 사이트淲e have ponied up in Britain. We바카라 사이트檝e put our money on the table. We바카라 사이트檙e sending our health workers. We바카라 사이트檝e got the medevac. We바카라 사이트檙e sending our troops. What are you guys going to do?바카라 사이트� Right? And I point out that companies like Ikea are giving more money than some countries in the European Union. And being able to make that point means that you can actually win over money and support, and get things done that make a difference.
Same with climate change. We may not agree with every aspect of this, but the fact is, it is good that Europe바카라 사이트檚 making a contribution to getting greenhouse gases down, but it바카라 사이트檚 doing it not on the basis of setting extra targets that will cost consumers money. So again, success.
But when you바카라 사이트檙e presented with a bill like this, with a month to go, is that helpful for Britain바카라 사이트檚 membership of the European Union? No, it certainly is not. But that바카라 사이트檚 why I want to address it so directly and so frankly, because we바카라 사이트檝e got to sort this out.
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I have a question looking forward to next year. After that frustration today, what do you think about the budget for next year? Have you had a chance to start discussions?
Prime Minister
There wasn바카라 사이트檛 much discussion of the budget 바카라 사이트� the European budget for next year, and it바카라 사이트檚 caught up in discussions of endless amending budgets for this year. And while I feel a frustration about that, actually, we need to stand back and ask ourselves, 바카라 사이트榃hy is 바카라 사이트� why are the debates on the budget so tough at the moment in Europe?바카라 사이트� And the reason is because we successfully 바카라 사이트� through the multi바카라 사이트慳nnual financial framework, we successfully cut the overall amount of money that is available for European budgets between 2014 and 2020.
So for the first time, the European Union is having to cut its cloth according to what it바카라 사이트檚 got, and that바카라 사이트檚 because of the move that I led with Angela Merkel and others to reduce the size of the EU budget at a time when we were making difficult decisions back at home. So what matters most of all with the 2015 budget 바카라 사이트� or indeed 2016, 2017 budgets 바카라 사이트� what matters most of all is we do not breach the limit that we set: 908.4, I believe it was, from that negotiation. And that is 바카라 사이트� what I will be absolutely vigilant about is whatever they do, moving money from one year to the next and trying to 바카라 사이트� what matters is, the budget cut that we announced, that we negotiated with much pain and difficulty, that budget cut will be delivered.
Thank you very much indeed. Thank you for coming. See you at the December European Council.